3 Jesus Christ

The LDS Jesus Christ

First born of the father… “Christ is the firstborn, meaning that He was the first spirit child born to God the Father in pre-existence” “Jesus as a sprit-son then progressed in the spirit world until He became a God. Christ by obedience and devotion to the principles and ordinances of the gospel, attained that pinnacle of intelligence which ranked Him as a God.

Jesus was begotten through sexual relations between a flesh and bone Heavenly father and Mary His daughter / wife. (Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers. Bruce McConkie)

Christ is not the son of the Holy Ghost but of the Father. James Talmage.

Jesus is commonly referred to as “our elder brother” (Same creation, and Essence)

Jesus was also married to Mary and Martha, and the other Mary.

Satan was the second spirit-son born to God the Father and is also our older brother.(As for the devil and his fellow spirits, they are brothers to man and also to Jesus and sons and daughters of god in the same sense that we are. J.H.Evans)

 

Jesus as described by the Bible.

Physical birth: Luke 1: 27-35, Matthew 1: 18-23

Matthew 1:20 clearly states that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, and nowhere  – in the Bible, the book of Mormon, or any other Mormon scripture – do we find any claim  or evidence that the Father had relations with Mary. (Alma 7:10)

 

Over all view of Christ

John 1:1-3, 10, 14, 29

Hebrews 1:1-5, 8, 10,

Colossians 1:12-19

Philippians 2:5-11

John 4:24-26 The Christ

John 5:17-18…Equal with God

John 5:39-40…Scriptures are all about Him (Warning about narrowness)

John 8:56-59…was before Abraham

John 8:24, 28, 58, 18:4-6…The “I AM”… Eternal self-existing one

John 9:38…accepted worship

John 10:28,6:47, 5:24, 3:16-18…gives eternal life

John 10:30-33…one with the Father

Matthew 3:17, 8:29, 17:1-5, Romans 1:4, Hebrews 4:14…son of God

John 14:6….the only way

John 15:1-6…true vine(very important because of the Mormon doctrine of their vine)

Revelation 1:8, 11, 18… who is, was, and is to come, Alpha and Omega…first and last…who lives forever

David F. Wells, in his book The Person of Christ, points us to some important parallels between Christ and Yahweh and demonstrates that Christ is not someone who came into being at a point in time (procreated by the Father), but is, in fact, eternal God Himself.

If Yahweh is our sanctifier (Exod. 31:13), is omnipresent (Ps. 139:7-10), is our peace (Judg. 6:24), is our right­eousness (Jer. 23 :6), is our victory (Exod. 17:8-16), and is our healer (Exod. 15 :26), then so is Christ all of these things (1 Cor. 1:30; Col. 1:27; Eph. 2:14). If the gospel is God’s (1 Thess. 2:2, 6-9; Gal. 3:8), then that same gospel is also Christ’s (1 Thess. 3 :2; Gal. 1 :7). If the church is God’s (Gal. 1:13; 1 Cor. 15:9), then that same church is also Christ’s (Rom. 16:16). God’s Kingdom (1 Thess. 2:12) is Christ’s (Eph. 5:5); God’s love (Eph. 1:3-5) is Christ’s (Rom. 8:35); God’s Word (Col. 1 :25; 1 Thess. 2: 13) is Christ’s (1 Thess. 1:8; 4: 15); God’s Spirit (1 Thess. 4:8) is Christ’s (Phil. I: 19); God’s peace (Gal. 5:22; Phil. 4:9) is Christ’s (Col. 3:15; cf. Col. 1:2; Phil. 1:2; 4:7); God’s “Day” of judgment (I sa. 13:6) is Christ’s “Day” of judg­ment (Phil. 1 :6, 10; 2: 16; 1 Cor. I :8); God’s grace (Eph. 2:8, 9; Col. 1:6; Gal. 1:15) is Christ’s grace (1 Thess. 5:28; Gal. 1:6; 6:18); God’s salvation (Col. 1:13) is Christ’s salvation (1 Thess. 1:10); and God’s will (Eph. 1:11; 1 Thess. 4:3; Gal. 1:4) is Christ’s will (Eph. 5:17; cf. 1 Thess. 5:18). So it is no surprise to hear Paul say that he is both God’s slave (Rom. 1 :9) and Christ’s (Rom. 1: 1; Gal. 1: 10), that he lives for that glory which is both God’s (Rom. 5:2; Gal. 1:24) and Christ’s (2 Cor. 8: 19,23; cf. 2 Cor. 4:6), that his faith is in God (1 Thess. 1:8,9; Rom. 4:1-5) and in Christ Jesus (Gal. 3:22), and that to know God, which is salvation (Gal. 4:8; 1 Thess. 4:5), is to know Christ (2 Cor. 4:6).44

The Mormon Jesus Christ The Biblical Jesus Christ
A created being: the elder brother of Lucifer Uncreated God
Common (one of many gods) and, in some ways, of minor important in the larger Mormon cosmology Unique (the Second Person of the one and only Godhead) and of supreme importance through time, eternity and all creation
Conceived by a physical sex act between God the Father (Adam or Elohim) and Mary, thus not through a true virgin birth Conceived by the Holy Spirit, who super naturally “overshadowed” Mary, thus a true virgin birth
Once sinful and imperfect Eternally sinless and perfect
Earned his own salvation (exaltation, godhood) As God, never required salvation
A married polygamist? An unmarried monogamist

 

John Chapter 3:1-21             John 3:14… illusion to Numbers 21:5-9

            Brass serpent = sin being judged        On a pole = Cross

Christ became sin for us, and was judged on a pole by the father, so now all that look to the cross with faith, seeing their sins being judged there, shall be saved from death.

Believing not behaving is the key… that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have Everlasting life.

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